Maybe They Are Sending Their Best?

Why should Americans lower our expectations in order to "win" a competition none of us agreed to?

A popular meme-theme on /ourside/ is that “they are not sending their best”, the idea being that the “immigrants” we are getting are not exactly the cream of the crop. It is linked back to Donald Trump back before he was President the first time.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. … They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” – Donald Trump, June 2015

The thing is, when it comes to the H1B visa thing….maybe places like India ARE sending their best and their best isn’t really all that great. It really comes down to the India question as nearly 3 out of 4 H1B visas go to Indians.

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Jared Taylor talks a little about it here.

The kerfuffle on the Right, mostly on Twitter, over the H1B thing seems to have died down but the issue is still a critically important argument to have. The main argument from the Tech-Right/Tech-Bros to support their demand for nearly unlimited numbers of H1B visa workers is that these are “highly skilled” workers, perhaps even the next Nikola Tesla! The amusing part is that generally all of their examples of genius immigrant inventors are White guys from Europe.

This argument doesn’t hold much water as most of the Indians in America are not terribly bright and work in lower-end jobs such as code monkeys or running gas stations. There are some higher-up in the ranks of corporate America but pretty much always at the head of a company started by a White guy and as anyone who has worked in a corporate setting knows, getting to the top of giant corporations isn’t a sign of being especially bright but rather a sign of being a weird combination between ruthless and ass-kisser. When I worked at the world’s largest privately owned investment firm that shall remain nameless, I heard talks from a number of very high up executives and without exception they were unexceptional people.

In a prior post, Watch The Pivot, I noted that India isn’t exactly a hotbed for Nobel laureates, an inexact but still useful measure for genius and innovation. You don’t generally get a Nobel prize for patenting a modification for something someone else already invented.

While it is far from a perfect metric, India ranks 18th in the world when it comes to Nobel Prize laureates, with a whopping 13 total. Compare that to the United States with 420 laureates or the UK with 142, Germany with 115 and France with 75. After the big four the total number drops to the 30s with Sweden, Japan and Russia (34, 31 and 30 respectively). Even Denmark with less than 6 million people currently has more Nobel laureates than India and over 70% of those are in a science field.

Of the 13 laureates from India, 8 of those or over 60% of them are in Peace, Literature or Economics meaning that there are a whopping 5 science Nobel prizes from India.

It turns out this is even worse than I thought. Someone else pointed out this little gem found by digging a little deeper: List of Indian Nobel laureates

Of the other science laureates, three of them lived/live in the U.S. or U.K.

The fifth “Indian” on the list of science Nobel Prizes is Ronald Ross, born in India in 1857, who discovered that malaria was transmitted by mosquitoes which provided the basis for treating and preventing the disease. Here he is:

Not exactly Apu from Kwik-E-Mart.

In short, of the five science/medicine Nobel Prize winners attributed to India, one was a White guy born in India, three were Indians that resided in the West and all of one was an Indian who lived in India, Chandrasekhara Venkata (C.V.) Raman and he made his discovery in 1928. It’s been a bit of a dry spell ever since.

Intelligence within a racial group is distributed on the famous bell curve meaning that for any racial group you will have some people at the far left end, those who were once called retarded, and some on the far right end, the geniuses, and most distributed along the middle. Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein made this famous in their book The Bell Curve with a chart that made Murray a pariah ever since.

I don’t have a similar chart for Indians but it is safe to assume that their chart would look better than blacks with the “bell” shifted a little to the right but still not anywhere close to Whites or East Asians for that matter. In a nation with a population of over a billion and a half, there is a pretty big sample size all along the spectrum so you would think that there would be a lot of Indian geniuses just based on the probability and distribution. That doesn’t seem to be the case. Certainly there are lots of above average Indians who can do some complex systems work but what makes Indians in America wealthy is more to do with their willingness to work crazy hours and of course plenty of nepotism.

So India appears to be sending their best and their best is most accurately described as mediocre.

Anyhoo, the argument the Tech-Right/Tech-Bros make besides “You’re racist and lazy for not wanting to work 80 hours a week at substandard wages so you can live like a lower class Indian” is that America needs to bring in the “best and brightest” from around the world in order to “compete” and “win”. As I hope I have demonstrated, that makes little sense as India doesn’t have “the best and brightest”. Still, it is a clever rhetorical scam because it assumes that Americans have agreed to a “competition” that none of us signed on for and that completely rewrites the American social contract while redefining the “American Dream”. What is even more bizarre is that it was a rich stoner from South Africa and a carnival barker from India that have taken it upon themselves to redefine what the American dream is, without any input at all from actual Americans.

At one time the American dream was pretty simple and quintessentially American: Get a job, work hard, save some money, get married, put a down payment on a house and start a family. It wasn’t asking a lot and it had a far more critical component than the white picket fence. That component was a multi-generational outlook.

The most important part of the American dream for most of us was to make it possible for your children to have a better life than you had. In my lifetime this meant that a lot of working class White people desperately wanted their children to go to college, with the promise that a college diploma was the golden ticket to a comfortable middle class life. This has been slowly changing with lots of Boomers laughing about spending their children’s inheritance on vacations and dining out but I also think that is not nearly as widespread as we see on social media.

In short we want a reasonably comfortable existence and the chance to provide the opportunities to our children and grandchildren to do the same or better. We aren’t asking to be super wealthy and have a beachfront home in Florida, just a nice lifestyle.

Being American middle-class is historically anomalous, I am well aware of that, but it also is something that our forefathers worked hard to attain, and they often shed blood and their very lives to create the conditions for us to live our simple but happy lives. That is rapidly being taken away from our progeny who face a new nation where their people, the people that made this country, are the villains of the story rather than the heroes, and in that new nation they are being made to accept a far lower standard of living than that enjoyed not just by their parents but by their grandparents and great-grandparents. The outlook for the young adult generation today is as grim as it was in the midst of the Great Depression.

For Muskaswampy, the American dream is “winning” in some bullshit competition with low IQ cheap labor. It’s an unnecessary game that no one agreed to, and “winning” means you have to be willing to lower your standard of living to match that of some sub 80 IQ third-worlder type so that a globalist company run by someone that doesn’t give a shit about you or your family can make a little more money. Our way of life has completely changed. Your kids can’t have sleepovers, they need to be doing math flashcards. How can you compete with code monkeys if you don’t chain yourself to your desk for substandard wages?

The social contract in America is badly broken and Trump “winning” twice, or perhaps three times, is a sign of how bad things are getting. The H1B backlash is perhaps a canary in the coal mine, a warning to the powers that be that the people are starting to figure this thing out. Someone should remind Them of what happens to the elites when the average person gets fed up enough with Their bullshit.