No Wonder Ammo Is So Expensive

Mexican nationals arrested while transporting 180,000 rounds of ammunition from Utah to Colorado

That seems perfectly innocent.

Two Mexican nationals in the U.S. on nonimmigrant visas were arrested during a traffic stop in Colorado last month while transporting 180,000 rounds of ammunition, authorities said Wednesday.

Caesar Ramon Martinez Solis, 41, and Humberto Ivan Amador Gavira, 24, both of Mexico, were pulled over in Canon City on March 26, the U.S. Attorney’s Office – District of Colorado said in a news release.

Two Fremont County detectives had spotted a white Chevrolet van passing them without dimming its headlights, in violation of state law, according to an arrest affidavit obtained by the Canon City Daily Record. The detectives said the van also failed to signal when turning into a gas station and had a defective license plate lamp.

During the traffic stop, the detectives discovered approximately 150 boxes of .308 ammunition and approximately 30 boxes of 7.62 ammunition, officials said. Each box was labeled as containing 1,000 rounds.

According to Solis….

Martinez Solis told authorities that he and Amador Garcia, whom he claimed was his brother-in-law, had traveled from Mexico to Denver a day earlier to purchase a vehicle before driving to Salt Lake City to look at another vehicle he was interested in buying.

In Salt Lake City, the men stopped at a firearms and ammunition store, where Amador Garcia bought the ammunition, according to the affidavit.

I often stop at gun stores and occasionally on a whim buy some ammunition. However I have never stopped and picked up 180,000 rounds. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

As I have admitted, math isn’t my strong suit but I do know ammo prices and you are looking at around $.60/round at a bare minimum for new, brass case full metal jacket .308 ammo. Name-brand new brass at places like SGAmmo is closer to $.75/round but even at $.60 per round times 180,000 rounds is over one hundred grand. Where did a couple of Pedros get a hundred grand to buy .308 ammo? How did they pay for it as your credit card issuer won’t approve a $100,000 transaction. Cash? Checks? You don’t walk into a strange gun store, order up 180,000 rounds of ammo outof the clear blue sky and write a personal check from the Banco El Meheeco. Maybe the ATF could take a break from arresting/murdering law abiding Americans for a second to track down where this ammo came from and how these two obtained so much? Plus .308 is a pretty common all around hunting round but even hardcore hunters aren’t getting 180,000 rounds. Many AR-10s use .308 but it still isn’t nearly as common a round as 5.56/.223 for AR-15s.

Not to mention that 180,000 rounds of .308 ammo is heavy, I am guessing around 30 pounds per 1,000 round case. 180 cases of 1,000 rounds each times 30 pounds equals 5,400 pounds or more than 2 1/2 tons. In another report I read that they were driving a 2017 GMC passenger van, the seats were obviously out but that is pretty easy to do in those vans as I have a similar van. My van is the big one so it is rated as a one ton capacity but if you put 2 1/2 tons in it, the ass end would be damn near dragging the ground which likely also caused some suspicion from the police.

These guys cross into the country on March 25th, 2025, just happen to buy a cargo van heavy duty enough to haul 180,000 rounds of ammo going from Denver to Salt Lake City then back to Pueblo, Colorado, a journey of over 1,100 miles? I don’t know for sure but I assume it is easier to get 180,000 rounds of ammo in SLC than it is in Denver or maybe they bought it direct from a manufacturer as I don’t know many small local gun stores that would have that much .308 ammo in stock and those stores would have either told these guys to take a hike or called the ATF. It seems unlikely that they just happened to stop in at a gun store in Salt Lake City and decide to fill a passenger van without the rows of passenger seats with 2 1/2 tons of ammo.

What were they doing with the ammo? Was it bound for Mexico, that would be the best case scenario, or was it being cached somewhere in the U.S. for nefarious reasons? How many less dumb Mexicans are buying up firearms and ammo and caching them in locations around the U.S. for use later on?

I keep telling people, while mestizos are less overtly violent than blacks, they are also considerably smarter. A low bar to be sure but they do possess the ability to plan ahead. The .308 round is a rifle round so it isn’t likely to be used by gangbangers in drive-by shootings. If they had a van full of 9mm it would make more obvious sense but .308? That is really concerning.

Remember Trump’s threat to classify the narco-gangs of Central America as terrorist outfits and talk of bombing them? Wonder why that never happened? Perhaps the Feds are aware that such an action would lead to retaliation from those narco-gangs and think about what a dozen guys who are decent shots with AR-10s and stacks of magazines could do to a crowd.

Sobering thoughts indeed and yet another reminder that you don’t have enough ammunition.