As an observer and indeed a notorious Noticer™ of trends and patterns, I take some pride in rarely being surprised by the endless shenanigans of non-Whites both here and abroad. Even still, I am occasionally startled by the depravity and wanton cruelty of blacks. More often I find myself aghast at the hubris of Jews, who demonstrate an undeserved arrogance that exceeds even that of We Wuz Kangz blacks. Case in point, this interview segment between Li’l Ben Shapiro and Douglas Murray.
Source: https://x.com/AFpost/status/1810292127810588741
Murray is an open homosexual and this is further evidence of my general rule of thumb that you can’t trust faggots. Even people on /ourside/ like Greg Johnson are to be considered useful to an extent but never leaders. A guy who sodomizes another guy has something deeply wrong with him and that invariably impacts everything about him. Something Li’l Ben squeaks right at the end of the clip linked above is that without “values” the people marching in the streets in solidarity with Gazans “are going to end up running this place”, meaning that someone other than Jews will be calling the shots and that terrifies Them.
The whole thing looks like a hostage video with good production values. Murray delivers his lines and then the camera pans to Shapiro nodding his approval. It makes me wonder if Ben came into possession of some photos of Douglas Murray with young boys or something. On the other hand, Murray is a neocon and his generally excellent book The Strange Death Of Europe, my review here, mentions Jews 40 times and Israel 20 times. I didn’t catch that when I read it in 2017 because I was still trying to avoid Noticing.
Let’s examine the quoted text above, but do watch the entire clip at your leisure for context as it is only 4 minutes long and you only have to suffer through Shapiro’s nasally pre-adolescent squeaky voice for a few seconds. I uploaded it to Rumble if you don’t have Twitter.
Douglas Murray claims Western civilization could not survive without Jews
First up, the 15 gorillion claim.
Murray does indeed claim, to the nodding approval of Shapiro, that while 15 million Christians or Muslims being killed would be a tragedy of some sort (although he doesn’t seem broken up about it), that the death of 15 million Jews would be an unspeakable tragedy that Western civilization couldn’t survive. 15 million Jews is the number of Jews in the world so the point here is if all Jews suddenly died. As there are more Jews in America than Israel, and no one is suggesting with a straight face that we are on the verge of pogroms and expulsion, it is hard to imagine a scenario where all Jews would suddenly die. That isn’t really the point, it is a philosophical marker than elevates Jewish lives above Christian or Muslim lives.
Next the notion that Western civilization could not survive if Israel were destroyed, with Murray making the bizarre claim that the destruction of the the Jewish state would cause Western civilization to die “because it would be, among much else, the cutting away of the whole tree we’re on”. The Jewish state is the whole tree we’re on?
The contemporary Jewish ethnostate that adopted the name Israel has been around since 1948-1949 or so. Prior to that it was under different non-Jewish rulers for most of the last 2000 years and even the Jewish control of Jerusalem is a historical anomaly more than an eternal right. This chart from Wikipedia is helpful
The blue sections are Jewish/Samaritan rule of Jerusalem and gee Wally, there isn’t a lot of blue on that chart. While Jews would have you believe They have some sort of God-given, exclusive right to the “Holy Land”, in reality it has been controlled by others far longer in total than it was ever run by the Jews.
My point is that Western civilization developed over the course of over 2000 years depending on where you start, ancient Greece being as good a place as any. There were lots of influences on Western civilization, primarily the Roman Empire and Ancient Greece, as well as cultures in the Middle East. Was Judaism one of those?
One of the claims of many Jews is that somehow Jews are at least as responsible for Western civilization as Whites. While most people understand that what is known as Western civilization is the downstream result of Roman and Greek civilization, some Jews have quietly inserted a specific phrase, “Judeo-Christian heritage”, into our cultural lexicon as a catch-all for Western values. It is a nonsensical term as Judaism and Christianity are and have been for 2000 years competing and incompatible religious systems.
Where Christianity traces it’s lineage back to the Old Covenant but replaces that Old Covenant represented by what we see in the Old Testament with the New Covenant in Christ, Judaism openly rejects Jesus and instead is founded on a new set of rules and regulations in place of temple sacrifices. While the two faiths share a common origin story, like Islam they then diverge drastically from one another. If most Christians were properly taught in their churches, they would see Christianity as the valid manifestation of God’s plan and that Jews from the first century onward who have rejected Christ as the aberration. Instead most Christians still think of Jews as God’s “Chosen People” despite Their rejection of God’s Son.
But what about the Ten Commandments?
My view is that the “Ten Commandments” are simply common sense, practical rules to govern a civil society. Don’t murder each other, don’t steal from each other, don’t bang your neighbor’s wife. You don’t really need some Jewish guy to climb a mountain, talk to a bush that is on fire and then bring down these fairly obvious rules on tablets of stone to know that most make some sense. Most of the Jewish laws are simply ways to avoid disputes and to adjudicate them when they occur.
In summary, what minor contributions (if any) have been made to what is today known as Western civilization on the part of Jews occurred more than 2000 years ago. To paraphrase Eddie Murphy” “Shlomo, what have you done for me lately?”.
The third point. As for America being unable to survive if Israel was suddenly gone, or even if every Jew in the world were to drop dead/be killed. Would America really not be able to survive if suddenly bereft of our leading hedge fund managers, cultural vandals and pornographers? Jews are just around 2% of the population and while they play an outsized role in finance, government and entertainment, it isn’t like Jews are the ones keeping the streets paved or the lights on. How many Jewish auto mechanics or carpenters do you know?
Quite the contrary, without the Jewish ethnostate that adopted the name “Israel”, American foreign policy would look very different. Rather than asking “What is best for Israel?”, perhaps American politicians could start to take into account what is best for Americans. Novel idea I know but you have to dream big. I am hard pressed to come up with a pragmatic way that America would be worse off if the “Holy Land” was suddenly denuded of Jews (other than most would likely end up in the U.S.).
So what gives? Why would Douglas Murray, a homosexual “conservative” type, be so fawning in his ridiculously over-the-top pronouncements of the indispensable nature of Israel? If we assume that Ben Shapiro is not in possession of incriminating phots of Dougie with little boys, then perhaps Douglas Murray really believes that steaming load of crap about Israel. Many or perhaps most “conservatives” have bought into that narrative that Whites owe Jews some sort of debt for Their inestimable contributions to Western civilization. Few can defend it other than some vague references to our “Judeo-Christian heritage” and the Ten Commandments but they believe it nonetheless, many because of the degenerate and false theological system known as Dispensationalism that infects evangelicalism.
For some 2000 years, Jews have been one of the most reviled groups in all of humanity. They have been famously expelled from the nations where They settled over 100 times. Rather than being a reason for introspection, They have assumed this is because everyone else is jealous of Jews for being rich or smart or God’s Chosen People™. Never that perhaps there is something in Their behavior that rubs others the wrong way.
For Zionist Jews, there are no rules. Anything goes to defend the “Holy Land”. I have been saving this article for a while:
Israel Must Stop Pretending It Is a Nation Like Any Other
The gist of this overly long post is that no one gets to tell Israel what is moral.
Israel must stop begging to be judged fairly by whatever standards the current hegemon has decreed we all agree upon. We need to look for standards from within our tradition to set a moral example for the whole world, while making it more practically possible to defend our homeland.
It is the old “We have investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong” shtick so often employed by our own government. In their weird inflated self-image, Jews really seem to think They bend over backwards to accommodate everyone else. It is bizarre. I took this screenshot back in March from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, “America’s Rabbi”
Source: https://archive.fo/nbDnn
Seriously? Is that the problem, that Jews are just so lovable that mean people take advantage of Them? I keep swinging back and forth between thinking this is all just an especially cynical con and that They really are collectively mentally ill and believe this stuff. Perhaps it comes from internalizing a cultural narrative that assumes that They and They alone are God’s most special Chosen People™ and therefore nothing They do is wrong and any objection to Their actions is just jealousy.
I try to not be one of those guys that responds to everything that comes up with “IT WUZ DA JOOS!” but They certainly make it hard to not keep pointing the finger at Them.
As a Christian, the only real value I place on the Old Testament is in the pictures of Jesus that it paints, so obviously that the Jews should never have been able to fail to recognize Jesus for who He was. Jesus pronounced an end to Judaism, the religious system, when their authorities attributed His messianic miracles to the power of Satan. Jews can be saved, as individuals, the same way as anyone else-- by becoming Christians. Otherwise, no dice.
And western civilization depends on the existence of Israel? What enabled western civilization until 1948? The real question is whether western civilization can withstand the existence of Israel.
No need to wonder at Douglas Murray being incoherent. He’s a sodomite. “Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.”